Well go. Welcome to a writer's life. My name is Dan Black. That over there is no one because I host the show Obama Day himself. That's right it's just me. I'm an egomaniac. I don'twant to share the microphone nor do I have the money to buy another microphone. Already I have started lying because I have three microphones so I guess it comes down to ego Isuppose. I have not posted in there for so the last couple weeks and I will get to that. But first I want to thank everybody for subscribing we shoot up on the charts every time werelease an episode and that's because we have a really high subscriber rate. So even though we're a little bit difficult to find there are a lot of podcasts out there and there are a lot ofpodcasts on writing. Hopefully the show is a little bit different. Hopefully it's injected with my mania and just the things I learned throughout the week and throughout my time as awriter. I bring it up on the show and it's not it's not entirely planned out and I know a lot of people want this really structured information about writing but I'm not sure. No I am surethat's not how writing is. There are tricks. Sure there are little little tweaks you can do to your writing to your stories that may seem formulaic but are really just necessary to put inevery story because there's the elements of the story and you can't do anything about it. And so to some degree writing is a little formulaic and that's OK and it's OK to be formulaic inyour podcast in your movies especially movies have to have the format. They get boring. But this show I was kind of hoping to make it a little bit different. And oddly it's it's a little bitharder because I've done it both ways it's a little bit harder to come in and do a show a stream of consciousness because your mind has to be on fire so I can't I can't come in afterwork and expect to say anything interesting or anything anybody would want to hear. And it takes a certain mind space to just sort of come in sit down at the microphone start talkingabout writing start talking about your life.
So I'm I'm finding the places within my week where I can do that the best because the other way is to structure the fuck out of it and I'm not. First of all I'm not really that guy even as awriter I'm not that guy I don't structure to death. I'll have a direction but I don't necessarily have a structure. It's sort of like this amoeba of an idea I have when I begin writing you knowsort of flushes out and it almost never comes out the way I thought it would. Usually it comes out much worse once in a while though once and once in a blue moon
or purple one there will be a little sliver a little sentence a little trail of
I want I don't want to say genius but
certainly it appears to someone with a high I.Q. wrote it. Listen it's not me you know it's it's it's the spirits talking me. I don't know I don't know scientific. Listen
writing is not
it. You can't nail it down. That's what's so great about it. You cannot nail it down. And once you're arrogant enough to think you've got it nailed you you've either discover you don't oryou become you know. See I don't want to throw out a name here. But you become the person who can just turn out a book every six months every every three months. Send it offyou know pay a couple thousand dollars for someone to edit it. Or if you're lucky enough to have an editor at a publishing house you just you know shoot it off over there all it's afantastic story you become that kind of a writer because you know if not the formula you have it leaves discovered a formula but it's not so easy for most of us primarily because wedon't want to output that kind of stuff. Now some of you do and that's OK. There's nothing wrong with being that kind of writer. Already with the condescension of that kind of writerquote that kind of writer what what kind of writer do you be the kind of make of money the kind that gets their stuff read. Yeah yeah not everybody want to be that kind of writer. Noespecially me especially me you know busted my balls to to make sure that every word is thought about every word every word counts. Every sin and if a sentence is not perfectguess what my floor gets lettered with crumpled up papers the woman comes home she goes don't you have a fucking trash can and I could probably bring one in from another room.But the answer is No I don't have another trash can and the reason I don't have enough. Another trick. The reason I don't bring a trash can into the room is because the drama is lost ifall the papers get crumpled up and thrown into the trash can. OK Don't you know something about dramatics don't you know something about the show. I must put on for everybodyso that when somebody walks into the room they can see how hard I've been working. Those those crumpled pieces of paper they represent my effort they represent my blood in mytears. They represent how much money I'm not getting paid because I can't fucking write I can't get the right idea. I can't get this sentence to look the way I want to look and have youever been in or on your computer sometimes or a bare hand most of the time or by hand
articles and stuff or on the computer but the fiction stuff. I gotta get it down by hand even if it's not exactly the thing I'm doing. But when you when you write by hand when you do it theway I do it you can scan a sentence five hundred times
and it begins. It's sort of like repeating a word or begin to lose its meaning. But when you do it on a sentence level you almost forget the language that you're speaking and you forgethow to speak your own language because you're looking at the thing you're going it is the order of those words correct me words which ones the such I forgot and you I swear toswear to god it's the most frustrating thing that's when I know OK shut the book go do something else go you know go for a walk in town or to go you know rub one out and I don't dothat and I never do that. Go do something else go do something else because you can't even understand the language you are writing in right now. That's when you get too close
and that's a tough thing not only to stop what you're doing not only to recognize that you need to stop and take a look back
but it's frustrating when you actually come back to the material and the very first sentence that you tried is the one that's that's what it should have been and that was the plainest thingto say and I still I do it all the goddamn time. I'll tell you it's even more frustrating than that
I have this routine that I do. We morning I make the kid breakfast I me get you know fifteen twenty minutes of whatever book I'm reading I may get it and then we I teach him how toread we get these tutoring things and I sent him on his way to reading we do his questions he's done for the day you get to do whatever he wants for the rest of the day which meansDad finally by the time ten A.M. rolls around he gets to do his writing and that's what we do on the day they don't work by the way. I mostly work you know. Well it doesn't matter whothe hell cares. At ten A.M. I start my writing
and it goes pretty good you know I do the morning pages or do them with morning three pages those don't really matter those are just to get to get good things going in the brain andscribbling those out. Bam three pages I'm done. That was fantastic it was twenty minutes. What am I a real writer or something. Look at over here look at me over here. I just wrotethree pages and no one will ever read. So then comes the hard part. Then comes the project I'm working on
this novel and I fucking love the thing I love it. I think it's a great idea. It should probably be written by somebody else but
I'm going to take a stab at it and I'm not telling anybody. I sit down again to read because usually I've gotten up and got a coffee I sit down again
and I get my hand right on the right you know right over the place where I left off poised to write the first word. My pen is descending down to the page down to the whiteness of thepage the ink the drop of ink on that ballpoint pen is just about to meet the white blank slate that I am going to invent or rate I'm going to make this page come alive with my creationand I swear to god
I stop just as the ink is about to touch the paper and I think. I'm
talking all Marie
but what do we have that we had tacos last night for dinner I wonder if the woman took him to where in the cities and towns and they say there's a nice steak left. Well
my coffee coffee tastes weird and I put
twenty times more milk in there. I don't like it that much milk how much milk is in there well that looks a little light so I'm going to take a little sort of a coffee and put a little bit morecoffee and make a little darker you know that that that's what was wrong I was not ready to write so I sit back down
and it's the whole thing again. The pain is about to meet the paper and
I don't have any clothes for work tomorrow. I should probably I should probably do you know what I'll do you know what I'll do just so I don't have to worry about it is how I will getsome law I will get some the laundry others but as for can throw in the washer and I are worried about it later it will dry in time for work tomorrow and you know I just I want to be ableto write I don't know I want to I don't have to think about it and I want have to think about it. I do laundry
and I sit down I have a private eleven now
and I'm about I'm bout to write in this time it happens I start writing I think
finally finally I get to write and I'm going and I know I stop to think a little bit in about two paragraphs in a command I use. Why am I so hungry today. Why am I so hungry. And evenhad a sip of my coffee since the laundry and takes my coffin is a sink for a bit. I swear to god I get I roll around the two and three o'clock and I look at my pages I have maybe threehundred words.
I'm somebody somebody out there. All of you maybe. I want you to ask me a question which I will answer directly. I want you to ask me
right now if I like doing laundry say Dan do you like doing laundry go ahead and ask me no I don't like doing laundry. I hate laundry. I hate anything. I hate everything actually. Yeah Iknow I hate everything. You know what I love I love writing I do when I get in Arizona but in LA It is the best thing in the world even when you know in my own mind I'm tortured aboutsomething and it really does. It gets to my brain. I cannot think of anything else but how to get this sounding the best way that it can sound. What happens here. No that wouldn't reallyhappen I got to figure out a way to make these characters a little bit more natural I wouldn't have been in the real me I get my own head
all the time
and I love it I love everything about it. But for some reason I can't. I keep getting destroyed I keep allowing myself to get distracted by things that I actually hate. I don't even like takingshowers. Now I'm one of the cleanest people on the planet I would take showers two times a day but I despise the time that it takes to take a shower because I think I could be doingsomething else I could be writing I could be doing something that that will actually make me feel satisfied about my time on this planet. When you're taking a shower cap Dammit butthen when I actually have the time to write I'm using the time that I have set aside to write
I'm not using it. I find reasons my brain finds reasons to go do other things even if even if it's thing I hate the most and wondering
I don't know what that is what is that. Why do I do that. I know I'm not the only one because everybody has a hard time sitting down and writing. And it's one of the reasons it's becomesort of a cliche now to get your butt in the chair and everybody knows it everybody's heard it. But there's something about the human psyche. There's something about the writer'spsyche in particular that will not allow him to do the thing that he loves best. It will not allow him whatever it is in there and won't allow us to. It won't allow us to make the most of ourlives that's what it seems like
when you write to make the most of our existence the most of our time here
in him must be. The ability for us to find something different to do even if we hate it. There must be something so deep in the subconscious something so afraid of writing somethingstupid or writing something that will fail. That is so deep in our brains that we don't even know that it's the sort of separate personality chatting at us that you better do something elseyou'd better go do laundry. You better get up and shower in St The scrub the cheese off your balls because this writing that you're doing this isn't going anywhere but at least if youtake a shower you're not going to have cheese on your balls at the very least at the very least. But if you write if you sit down and write this piece and there's this little voice in the backof my head if you sit down and you write this and it ends up being a piece of shit what if you send it to two hundred agents and they'll say oh what the fuck is this piece of shit youshould not be writing. I have a manuscript from Dan Brown on my desk that I could be reading
but I just wasted time in the slush pile and I wasted time with his author who who apparently thinks he's a literary genius. He says he sucks that now. When did you suck up and he stillhas cheese on his balls. I will bet the farm
that he has dirty clothes
I don't know what that is folks. And I hate it I fucking hate it
when we come back. I don't have a reason. Listen I don't have a resolve. I don't have an answer. What do you what do you what would anybody want me to say I want the answer to. Iwant to be able to sit down and do my writing more than anything in the world. That's what I want for my own life. That's what I want for my existence. But I don't know what's eating atmy head I don't know what's eating there
is probably no don't play I love my train of thought there. I'm not going to listen I'm going to go back and listen to that. Most people go back cut that out because I know you sound likean idiot. Well I'm a fuckin idiot you know. I can even do the thing that I love the most that's why I haven't released a podcast in a couple weeks because I've had to concentrate onwhat I'm doing I keep getting distracted. And I love doing this podcast and I'm getting a great response I mean the trend of double downloads is still happening double subscriptions
and I'm super stoked about it but I am in many parts at least a short story writer and that's what I need to be doing. When we come back I want to talk about the passage of time therehas to do this is why it took a couple weeks off from pod casting. There was really something I had to think about because my writing was missing a little component and it doesn'tmean I was I was writing poorly and it certainly doesn't mean that I'm a better writer when I did it. But this idea of the passage of time is huge and I needed some time to think about itinto practice it in my own writing and what I mean when I was writing this novel. I had to get myself in a space where I was consciously writing this particular way so stick around we'llbe right back I'm going to talk a little bit more about the passage of time and quite possibly other things most possibly other things stick around.
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the passage of time has a time. Both
the best writers and the finest writers understand something about the passage of time. For the most immature writers and most people who are trying to break in to the business ofwriting I don't understand. And I talk about this a lot but I'm going to come at it from a slightly different angle. What got me going on this passage of time thing was a book called Stagean eleven by man I forgot her name a saint. Say Man I wish I could remember a name I didn't bring it with me. Oh wait maybe it is on
I mean bring with me.
But it is called Station eleven and I'm not done with it. But it was nominated for a National Book Award or you know is a National Book Award finalist rather and it didn't win and I havemy problems with the book but this is not the place for it so I'm not going to like the review it here. I'm glad I bought it I bought it new By the way if you buy new books or if you buybooks by authors who are still alive because man because me and and buy a new you know Sure throw them a few shekels they wrote the book they tortured themselves over it.There is tortured as you or me and they were going to deadlines beyond being an author is not easy and that some of us just don't know what we're question for when we decide thatwe want to be a writer.
But if we're going to buy her book or any author that's alive. I mean what do you can buy new on Amazon is generally cheaper. Costco has great prices on new books. Usually they'rebetween eleven and twelve bucks. Come on come on now. I mean shipping is five right isn't shipping four or five
most you got Amazon Prime he can get free shipping. Today's not the point the point is buy a new Be Cruel man all right. You don't those two books winches one book. Do others evenget a book. I'll tell you what if they get a buck for the book that would be all right around what five five five percent for the for the whole for the wholesale man that's rough and they cansplit that the publisher of the paper advance back they get paid agent. And if they're doing a book. But are they going to pay a publicist and man it is. It's a rough gig. It's a rough gigsome of us do not know what we're wishing for when I say we want to be writers.
Anyway I was reading her book Station eleven and she's a very very good at this. I'm not I'm not sure that it merited the
N.B.A. finals. But but written very well she's an exceptional writer and everybody's to go pick up that book I'll have it in the show notes and also if you go to a W.L. Show dot com Ithink I'm going to make that the Book of the month because it really shows us how US writers not only is it a fun yarn but it shows us how to write the passage of time. She does afreaking excellent job of writing passage of time know what I mean by that. There are situations that you get into when you're writing that you find yourself stuck and you cannot get outof them. And most of us go to plot. Most of us go well you know there's this plot I don't know how to get out of this situation. There could be some of that but I would guess that mostlikely what you've done is you've rambled a bit because when you ramble you begin to lose the thread of your narrative and rambling is a term we used while speaking but it can bedone in writing too. And I don't mean the rambling in the sense that you're just writing nonsense you're obviously writing something that you think is interesting or the needs to be saidbut that's not our job our job is to condense life. If you're writing science fiction fantasy literary It does not matter what you are writing. If you are writing fiction of any genre of any kindyou are condensing experience. You're condensing life into into something like I said a couple weeks ago into something we can take a magnifying glass to.
In the trick is not to get cartoonish about it
but if we can cast it in a couple of weeks and I'm fuckin stuttering all over myself and I can handle talking into the microphone
professional cool and professional. When you talk about the passage of time
you may be stretching it into this cultural real isn't a real ism in literature is fine. Please understand I'm talking about this in a slightly different way. I'm not talking about John or style. Iam talking about writing in a protracted manner meaning your scenes go on for too long and you're not compacting time and this is how a plot to convoluted. This is how things go onfor a little while and this is also by the way what will prompt your writer like my wife what she'll do is if you if the author has a tendency to ramble a little bit she'll just skip to thedialogue. She'll go right to the dialogue and I've done it too I don't do it is as much
because of the books I pick slightly and I want to say
I don't want to intellectually elevated You know I don't want to say that I pick smarter books than she does. But but it that's precisely what I'm saying. So when but when an authordrags it out drags out his narrative for too long and he goes way way too long without somebody speaking the problem is not the space between speakers. The problem is that youhave not condensed time and if if your book waits for speaking in order to give it a sense of action
meaning every time. There's dialogue that's your climax of the chapter of the phrase or of the scene or whatever. If if if the dialogue is becoming the climax of every scene then there'ssomething in between that you're missing
and you go well you know things are happening in between but are things really happening or is it just people are moving. Or is it someone and flailing their arms are you are youshowing their body emotions because you've been told Show Don't Tell so you're trying to show how they feel and waving my arms right now. You know he exclaimed
I'm wildly and you're sort of explaining that his hands are in the air you're explaining that this guy's. He has a rip in his crotch and it isn't knowing you're explaining a little how the sackis you know peeking through and it looks like a sliver of you know I don't know I don't get vulgar. I'm sorry I'm sorry I go for the gross stuff first I'm sorry. Some of you probably be verysurprised to read my stuff because it's not it's not I'm not
I can't read or write. So that's what it comes down to that to get a protracted. There's too much stuff in the middle and the stuff in the middle is not moving time along the stuff in themiddle is merely
is merely filling space. And that's a huge deal. And this is where writing writing is already difficult. It's the hardest thing one of the hardest things in the world to do well
but the worst part of it is that it gets harder. Your brain has to go into overdrive
all the time. It has to be in pure overdrive to write like like a scene. And elders. I apologize if I but your name she wrote Station eleven. I
do a lot of research. If you're going to write like she does your imagination has to be on because almost every sentence give you a hint about history. It gives you a hint about whatthey're doing or what they did. I would love to give you examples but I don't want to read from her work because it's new and I would really just rather you go buy a tall box or whateverand read it and look for this particular thing because she does it so well.
I believe that her book so far about two thirds through her book takes up
so far about thirty years of time. Maybe maybe a little bit more but at the book's only three hundred pages and she does jump back and forth. But what the great thing is is when whenshe gets into these sections you feel like even in the span of a few paragraphs you lived days with these characters you've lived a period of months maybe even years. And it reads soeasy is littered with a few. I'm going to be honest it's it's has its problems
but what I got out of it and what I needed to get out of that book was the same thing that I got out of. If you girls book the berry giant that was last month's book of the month.Whenever I read Garcia Marquez whenever I read Hemingway Dickens not so much I mean he's good at it but he's not as good as the modernists are. When I read saw Belo isexceptionally good at it he will take sentences and put them together. You there is no reason to think that two of his sentences would go together but they take you along on a while. I'drange of time and what it does when you say it. Johnny went to the store to get a pack of smokes at home. Now his mother was always cooking biscuits. You think all those don'tconnect I mean those there's nothing there's nothing connected in those two sentences they're too far apart. But when you do that over and over and over again for a series of threefour five paragraphs these disconnections become time condensed and believe me those two sentences where I was being euphemistic just to make a point. But it's OK if we do notsee your character go to the store get his get his ding dongs and his soda and his beer whatever the hell I said he was going to get
and then we see him leave and wave to the store owner and left that store owners going to follow him home and slit his throat. We don't need to hear about it. There is a reason theJohnny went to the store. What was that reason and that reason needs to be fulfilled quickly because everything that happens in the Tour in between is not important. Oh oh Ruiz goddamn I'm the worst with author names
he wrote the shadow the shadow of the wind. Ruiz a foreign enemy crossings so he wrote I got his newer one. It's actually been sitting on my shelf for a long time. I think his name isCarlos reason
he he wrote a children's book in his first book was the prince of the mist. I read that one not impressed but shadow of the wind was a great book. Good read and he's really good atthis as well. I started looking up authors like arceo Marquez and you know where he's often came up just because he's a Spaniard and what I discovered and it led me all the way tostation eleven. She's young to thirty six or so. These authors I was looking for people who condensed time well so I would read the first page and you know next book read the firstpage so I got these writers in front of me and I want to know how they do it because I do it sometimes but I don't do it all the time and I started really picking apart how their their timewas spread and I just discovered that their time was not spread it was condensed. Now you think well obviously you know you can't it's only a three hundred page book obviously timeis going to be condensed. Yeah. But to do it convincingly is far different than just thinking well yeah of course you know the book takes place over a period of a couple years. Wellthat's fine but how do you write it convincingly. So anything by research on you need to go get out the links in the show notes research and you need to get Station eleven by sayMandela. Remember any medical teams Emily in leasing that station eleven caught in it.
I'm trying really hard to remember her name because she deserves credit. Station eleven. The shadow of the wind. That's not the one I'm reading but I can remember the one I'mwriting it's a sequel that I'm reading our prequel
skillful skillful storytellers not people you would call strictly literary.
Certainly the plot or the plot drives you on a plot driven books but the fashion in which they are created we need to learn from. It's really important if you want to be a fine writer anexcellent writer. This is assuming that you're willing to work for it
and to sit down and really pick it apart. Even with a pen if you have to write it yourself. Got a pen in the paper and just start copying their words so you can get the flow
of the passage of time. This it blows me away how you can do something for years and I don't mean just do something. I mean you could be looking at the same thing every day foryears reading the same stories loving the same authors you read their books two three times and you won't. You can not understand how they do what they do because it's so fuckinggood they're so goddamn good. And then after seven or eight years you go oh wait a minute there were times in their paragraph their time is really condensed I mean there's a periodof weeks there are memories when we do flashbacks. They don't look like flashbacks they're real subtle memories that take place over two or three sentences. And it's alwayscorrelated the time is always can be danced into let's say the story goes along and they see a building. And I remember when John Updike spoke he was having a flashback about hisfirst wife is of the form of Billy. And he said in the living room with his mother but he's recalling how he married his current wife something that his mother said reminded him of the dayhe got married in that situation. That situation led him to think about the way the building look outside of the window of the municipal building
and what it did was it made you think
that the character in the book who was in his mother's house was having this memory and you would never dare call it a flashback. And you know how long it took two paragraphs twoshort paragraphs and he had this long memory. And maybe this sounds obvious. To me it sounds obvious to me as I see it yeah obviously this is how you write
but the skill of doing it so that the reader doesn't know that it's happening. That's what we're aiming for and it's something a lot of us do naturally. I mean when I do it I kind of naturalwhen I do it. But what I realize is that I go on a little bit too long so that we lose the thread of the main story and if it's not part of the main story. If it does not give us insight into thecharacter or the history of that character or the history of the universe that you've built up then it needs to get cut not because it's too long not because it's not good not because it's
not because it's anything else except for slightly unnecessary slightly unnecessary. Not in the sense I'm saying as yet not in the sense
that it isn't belong there because it very may well belong there. It may even be an important memory
but perhaps you put that somewhere else because what needs to happen. Every paragraph in your book does two things at least two things. It pushes the faces further in the story orand or it elucidates
some complication or some aspect of the character's
existence or his you know his own character as it were
his own ethos and past us. We're getting an idea of those things but those in themselves if you reveal character do not come through statements that come through memories theycome through actions. So if a character is getting married in a municipal building he is noticing something around him. His mother who is sitting behind him in the ceremony and he ishaving this memory about what he is what he did about what happened. When we talk about a character and let's say he's getting a pail of water down by the river
he you know what do you do you say oh he used to come to this river with his brother. You know as a child but he hasn't been back since because his brother drowned you know inthe in the river and he refused to come back
on those important moments those kind of important moments. You can take the leisure of explaining because it's so important to the character. But if you're doing this all the timewhere
you'll sort of explain
you know the trees along the way to the river or you will explain how the pail that he's going to get water in is kind I have holes in it and it's rusted because the dog likes to play with itand it's dented. These are not these are not the important things and this is how we ruin the illusion of the passage of time because we keep spending it in the present and thecharacters present and we're not spending it on quick memory quick descriptions and furthering the plot of furthering
we're not getting the character where he needs to go. By stating his present state we need to see what he does and what he says. And in novels we have the luxury of these little cutelittle flashbacks where one or two sentences will tell us something about his history something about why he's doing the thing he's doing. And I get caught up in going way too long.Like three or four or five sentences
you can do it over the course of. Pages if you'd like. And that's necessary sometimes but it had better be important. It better be something new this story cannot do without. And alsolisten if it's something the story can't do without. Maybe it happens as an in his present and not in his past. If is
Johnny goes down to the river with a pail to get water and he doesn't want to go there because his brother died in that river
and you had to spend five six pages
explaining that maybe didn't have a nose past. Maybe that's the opening of your book. Maybe it happens in his present because that's really important. It's really important it's going todrive the character to his end whatever and whatever and that happens to be good or bad
but that's important so maybe your book opens up with that story. Do you see in placement is really important too. So if the things in your in your story are being placed within thenarrative the need to be quick because this is how we give the illusion that a lot of time has passed. This is one way the next way though there's really two ways that I want to getacross and it was that particular way
where you give short snippets about their their past and it better be important better be quick and don't go on for too long and the other way is to write sentences that seem to notconnect to each other but will give you a feeling of a long time having passed. I cannot formulate out to you how to do it because it's not easy and further is not really an instructionalshow all of the pass along to you that this does exists and that if you look at your mark has the same Mendell author and if you go to. So far. Carlos Riri Aris the fun you will find theseguys are excellent at the passage of time I mean read the paragraph and see how weeks go by years. It's a great thing it's a great thing. It's a difficult thing and it will improve yourwriting as it has mine. I've always done this but I discovered in the past couple weeks that I wasn't doing it and thus I wasn't convincing enough and I was letting the lesser important
the lesser important scenes and stretches of narrative I was letting them take over just a little bit too much because they weren't important. They were fun to write.
It sort of helped the characters to blossom a little bit because it inevitably involves dialogue but it wasn't important and it is really hard to see those things especially in your ownwriting. Now this was of course
in between getting up every five minutes for laundry and finishing that half the garden you know take down last night and possibly work in half a bottle of bourbon. I don't know I mean
I'm no I'm no saint but I've been known
to take down a little bit of alcohol. Not every night. Not even twice a week but when I DO YOU JUST DO IT AND I DIDN'T expensive. Anyway thank you guys for tuning in the format ofthe show is going to change just a little bit I am going to keep it shorter because I love it so much and I wanted as a wee things that I learnt into
into the show rather than sort of separating like a hard separation so from now on I'm going to cut down a little bit on the time so I can concert a little bit more in writing but I'm also thethings I learn I'm just going to weave them right into me talking so I got a couple of things that I learned this week. And I'm just going to leave him right in there and that that's going tobe the show format from now on because a little bit fun for me and it would be if you were sitting across from me. That's how I would talk to you. That's what I would do. So that's whatI want to be a man and I want to be a writers group. This is me A.W.L. Show dot com is the Web site Dan that it will be will show dot com You can e-mail me questions any good ones.I like to put together a show of really unique questions. And also if you like give me examples of your writing you know send in a paragraph. Look I have a trouble with this how can Iget it better. I may do that just in email but if you want it done on the show that would be fantastic and I would be better. Anyway as I had to get a little down my throat here I will saythank you so much for tuning in. If you have a couple seconds give us an old review on i Tunes I would really appreciate it helps out the show. It keeps us growing. Hopefully you canget things here that you can't get anywhere else. So you also dot com Dan A.W.L. Show dot com and I will see you guys next week.